Sunday, April 24, 2005

The Slashdot hive-mind has some interesting points

In this /. article entitled Steve Ballmer Responds to Discrimination Issue, I spotted an interesting comment.

Re:Corporations shouldn't be involved in issues li (Score:5, Insightful)
by JenovaSynthesis (528503) on Sunday April 24, @02:03PM (#12330261)

The ironic thing in all of this is that discrimination towards homosexuality is based on the belief it is a choice which has strong evidence against it (i.e. the fact gay rats can literally be manufactured and there is data from WWII-era German births providing a link to the same phenomena in humans). They also somehow believe people wake up one morning and say "I want to be a member of the most vocally hated minority in the US." and such.

The ironic twist is that, assuming being gay is a choice, the same arguments against gay rights based on choice also negate civil rights based on religion. You choose to be Catholic/Protestant/Jewish/etc. so why should they get protection based on that then?

Now those are certainly fascinating thoughts. I knew about the "gay rats can literally be manufactured" bit, but not about the WWII-era German births. Really, when you think about the study with the rats, then the German babies make sense.

Which reminds me. Does anyone have a link to the published results of that study with the rats? I can't seem to find my printed copy anywhere (partially because I've forgotten what journal it was in >_<), so I would greatly appreciate a little help finding another copy somewhere.

Edit: Alright. I found the title and author of the paper in question as well as when and where it was published.

Parental Stress Feminizes and Demasculizes the Behavior of Males by Dr. Ingebog Ward. It was published on January 7th, 1972 in Science.

Now, unfortunately, Science only has issues dating back to the 20th of September, 1996 on their site; the rest are in JSTOR. I don't have JSTOR access from my school (let alone from home), so I can't even verify if it's there. If anyone happens to have access and can find it, I would *really* appreciate a copy.

On a related note, does anyone else find it really sad how hard it is to get copies of scientific whitepapers? I'm almost to the point of requesting a copy from the Library of Congress here, though I somehow doubt that I would end up getting what it is that I want, seeing as I can't seem to find it on their website. I doubt that their librarians would have better luck than I had.

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